I was thinking earlier about something that strikes me as odd.
Why are sith the only force users exempt from the 50k credit bounty? I always heard that it was originally only going to be palp and vader immune to it.
It seems a little stupid to have a bounty for everyone other then one specific faction have a bounty on them.

Considering the rule of two, I find it odd that PC Sith are so open. But then in Canon there were lots of Force Sensitives that served the Emperor and Vader. Everything from the Dark Side Mages to the Emperor's Hand. Even some Witches I think.

the only PC that is exempt as far as i know is Saerick and he is "-vader's-" apprentice. so yeah... there is also an adept, not naming in case of meta.

And it doesn't mean the Rebel's can't perma kill them anyway, in my time playing so far I have noticed the Rebels are far too "Nice".

Just because they're good doesn't mean they're "Lawful Stupid". If you have a murderer in custody, we should be able to do formal trials with IC consequences. Not just "Yeah, see you next time you murder a bunch of civilians".

Or "Sir, you just blew up half the city with a thermal detinator. Thats okey though, just let me escort you off the planet?" Say whut? >.>

let's not go there.... please. both rebs and imps have their deals and NEITHER one is civilian safe..... both are tyrants due to the PCs in the factions, yada-yada yadaaa...... and yeah...

but yes Rebs do have the right to ID capture and kill Dark side force users

Well, that was an example of when a merc kinda went on a planet and pointedly murdered a bunch of NPC civilianss with intent just to try and get our attention. I think such stupidity should have its consequences IC. Thats what RP is afterall.

Umm, if you read the holonet public news, Palpatine is offering a bounty of 50 thousand credits for 'any' force user.

Sith are not the only people that can place bounty. It is just the empire that happens to have let out a message for the capture of force users, the Rebellion is free to do the same, nothing stops them I believe.

I do not believe anyone is stopping other people from setting their own bounty prices for force users, and I do not think Vader or Palpatine himself are immune, and it 'can' happen, just that it would be very difficult. I would talk to the staff before trying to capture vader or palpatine, though.

you tried to turn in vader's apprentice. the people there had seen him before. one of my characters saw his face. We could ID him as one of our own force users and we already had that information on him so the pay was void or at least that's how i saw it

As I understand it now the bounty on force users isn't the only way to perma a force user. With approval from Pug, Quix, or MD, along with all the proper RP, plain old PCs can execute a Jedi/Sith. I don't see why this is a controversy though. There's far too much clamor over Permakilling. Why do we all want each other dead? The only time I've ever made a fuss about it is when rebels have gone so far out of their way not to perma a certain someone, and then the favor doesn't get returned. But that business is over and done with. Bottom line is Imperial force users will often be immune to the bounty due to RP circumstances, but they are not immune to perma.

BUT, that being said...

Perma isn't classy, and neither is wanting to kill off people's PCs without damn good reason. Let's save it for the horribly RPed renegade force users of the world, no? I'll not give names, but we all know a perfect example of the perma being used justly, wisely, and for its real purpose...

Dark Grand Master of the Jith <.<

since we are started to talk about perma ...

while i agree perma should be left to when there is a good reason and good rp behind , it not a side that should be jumped too eager at . there is after all verious of other way to 'punish ' a character on . example being taking their gold ..a item or two ..take away level , depending on the rp .
but as it stand right now ..perma is sort of is open to abuse and meta gaming , if all it take is to 'get known' . it a PW ..meta gaming will exist to a small extend even it against common sense and rules , just how it go . all it will take to get known is one ..one single character starting a rumor , be it icly or meta . not only that then it in a way make me ask ...why have classes you cant really use anyway , in the since ..use it and get known and you just need to caught anywhere seemly .

so by that line of thinking , someone could make a ubber Rogue with ubber gear and single start to bag 'known' force user :S

perma should be more toward the risk a character is put in , the more danger the more reason for perma and higher risk it is approved

personaly the best idea i can think of is perma danger in the following areas .

1: stupid/abusive RP (not rping the class , walk up and spit on Darth Vader . you get the idea)
2: found and captured on the HQ planets (Coruscant/Yavin right now)
3: Captured doing a assault on a enemy faction base planet (glowing planet )
4: large events maybe
just what i can think off at the top of my head , certain other action could be called perma risk by the majority .

Complete Agreement

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"1: stupid/abusive RP (not rping the class , walk up and spit on Darth Vader . you get the idea)
2: found and captured on the HQ planets (Coruscant/Yavin right now)
3: Captured doing a assault on a enemy faction base planet (glowing planet )
4: large events maybe
just what i can think off at the top of my head , certain other action could be called perma risk by the majority ."

I disagree with #3, and part of #2, if you are found on Coruscant but you're a rebel, it shouldn't lead to perma, but if you are found on Yavin but are an Imperial, you were likely metagaming and therefore your RP falls under #1, and if you weren't metagaming, a DM has probably warned you that if you are captured there you will be perma'd.

As for #3, just no. Capturing planets has NO impact on the server right now, aside from making the planet glow pretty colors. You go there, you kill stuff, you leave, the enemy comes back 5 minutes later and takes the planet back. Imagine losing a character you've played for 3 months because the other side managed to capture you in an Open PvP area in a small unimportant event which never was to have any real impact upon the story of your chracter, the overall plot of the server, and it was all just 'cause folks wanted to perma you and ruin your day.

Remember, you perma'ing another person's character will, 80% of the time, be because you just want to perma their character to make you feel better about yourself, I've been on servers with permadeath as the result of all PvP, it is not fun, it does not add to the fun for the losers at all, and only makes the winners feel more 1337. We shouldn't be able to kill force users, either, except in a huge amount of RP where we actively hunt down and try to kill the jedi/sith/witch/adept/whatever which involves the force user having fun as well, not capturing them in some random planetary assault.